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People are obsessed with the savage comeback that ended this academic beef
‘Sorry to hear that.’
The adorable video of a father talking to his baby son took a turn after two linguistics got into a tiff regarding “baby talk.”
The tiff was between Karla Holloway and Carina Hilbert, both of whom tried to assert their linguistic knowledge onto whether the baby would develop greater speech comprehension patterns as a result of the baby’s father speaking to him like an adult.
To sum it up, Professor Holloway, who has a doctorate degree, claims speaking to a baby like an adult is good for speech, while Hilbert, who has her master’s degree, claims baby talk is good for babies.
As a linguist, let me just say, this child will develop complex verbal skills before those who get (high-pitched) "baby talk" from parents. Talk to children w/regular vocabulary. Sit back, notice the developmental milestones! Toddler's conversation w/dad https://t.co/SYtKdCgkYU— karla fc holloway (@ProfHolloway) June 6, 2019
I'll match my psycholinguistics/language acquisition background (incl. my PhD) w/your "research-based baby-talk." Complex speech patterns yield greater language comprehension and production. Yes, baby talked to children speak. How they speak and understand is the variable.— karla fc holloway (@ProfHolloway) June 6, 2019
“Yeah, my master’s in second language acquisition from USC with Krashen-trained profs is worthless,” Hilbert wrote.
That’s the moment that set Holloway up for the ultimate comeback.
“Sorry to hear that,” Holloway replied.
sorry to hear that.— karla fc holloway (@ProfHolloway) June 6, 2019
Twitter was shook. Shook.
Flame herrrrrrrrrrrrr pic.twitter.com/ENPxv4XJ0W— The ONE 👑 (@YaGirlSP) June 7, 2019
That was pretty legendary Dr. Holloway. pic.twitter.com/YiTTQRgX2r— Big E (@EHMart) June 7, 2019
that final response is a perfect example of why professor holloway is so much smarter and better https://t.co/GjkdPkje6j— ＳＫＵＬＬＧＵＮ_ＤΣＳＴＲＵＣＴＩ♢Ｎ (@augvision) June 8, 2019
Holloway’s reply, alone, racked up more than 16,000 likes–and ascended her to legend status.
Screenshots posted by @dreamgirlphae called out Hilbert, who is a white woman with a lesser degree, for thinking that she was smarter than a Black woman with the highest level of an academic degree.
“Today in white women think they’re smarter than everybody. Niece literally tried to match a Ph.D….with her masters. Goodnight.”
Today in white women think they’re smarter than everybody 😂 niece literally tried to match a PhD....with her masters. Goodnight. pic.twitter.com/mTWt41rZsH— PhaePhae (@DreamGirlPhae) June 7, 2019
But Holloway hit back at those who thought this was a racial incident, rather, stating it was just two educated women differing on the science of language acquisition.
Say folks, what I like abt Twitter is common ground alongside license to play. @CarinaHilbert and I might differ on language acquisition, as does the field (cognitive v behavioral); but we share more than we disagree. Leave her be. We've met up in DMs. No apologies need to happen— karla fc holloway (@ProfHolloway) June 8, 2019
“People, this is not about race …. I’m old enough (older than all y’all I suspect) to recognize bias,” she reiterated.
People, this is not abt race.We engaged.I sorta won the shade battle (well, maybe that was racial advantage).But we've connected thru DMs, and enjoy the engagements.I'm old enough (older than all y'all I suspect) to recognize bias.Nope. Not at all. So move along w/the race read.— karla fc holloway (@ProfHolloway) June 9, 2019
Luckily, both women are taking the incident in stride, with Hilbert commenting Holloway on her classic comeback, and Holloway calling Hilbert her “new twitter friend.”
It was really good, I can’t lie. 😄— 🦆 🧶 Carina Hilbert✌️ (@CarinaHilbert) June 8, 2019
Finally, Twitter beef that ended peacefully–or without anyone losing their job.
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Dominic-Madori Davis is a recent graduate of the University of Southern California. She covers the internet, politics, and social issues.