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Charlie Kirk has finally had it with these white nationalists in his movement

Trump supporters are finally turning on white nationalists. 


Zachary Petrizzo


Posted on Nov 5, 2019   Updated on May 19, 2021, 11:45 pm CDT

An internet feud between pro-Trump conservative Charlie Kirk and far-right white nationalist Nicholas Fuentes has moved from Twitter onto the main stage. 

The reason for the dispute, according to white nationalists, is that Kirk’s conservative organization, Turning Point USA (TP USA), has weak positions on what far-right white nationalists consider to be true conservatism. 

It’s a schism among young right-wingers that reveal the ideological fault lines within Trump’s Republican party.

Fuentes, a white nationalist, is no stranger to controversy, having stated that he wanted to see CNN reporters “arrested and deported or hanged.”

Kirk, a right-wing pundit and chairman of TP USA, a youth conservative student organization, is one of the biggest faces of the more presentable wing of Trumpism. 

On college campuses around the country recently, Kirk took heavy questioning regarding his support for Israel, his stances on free speech, and homosexuality, which Fuentes’ far-right supporters made go viral. That resulted in a cascade of questions, as more white nationalists sought their moment of fame by debating and challenging Kirk at TP USA events. 

It came to a head at Politicon, a carnival-style politics convention aimed at fostering debate. There, last month in Nashville, the 21-year-old Fuentes attempted to take a picture with Kirk before being stopped by security. 

Fuentes, who was barred from CPAC this past year, continued to provoke Kirk at Politicon by posting images depicting him “conquering” a TP USA booth on display. 

Kirk was later notified by Politicon security staff about the incident, resulting in Fuentes being barred from Kirk’s debate against Kyle Kulinski, a political commentator with The Young Turks. 

The antics continued when Fuentes took swipes at Kirk online. He also then took the battle to a campus speech hosted by Kirk’s national student organization.

At a “Culture War” presentation at Ohio State University hosted by TP USA on Oct. 29, Fuentes allegedly planted who he calls “groypers” in the audience to blast Kirk—along with Rob Smith, a liberal turned conservative—with questions regarding their conservative views, especially when it comes to homosexuality and free speech.

Groypers are Fuentes’ loyal followers, voracious in their support of him. It’s also a reference to the Pepe the Frog derivative white nationalists use, another in a long line of memetic green frogs.

During the Q&A portion of the event, Patrick Casey, a friend to Fuentes and fellow white nationalist, pressed Kirk on his “free speech” position and how TP USA fired Ashley St. Clair, a former TP USA employee, for taking a picture with Fuentes at a party with neo-Nazis and white nationalists. 

When Casey pressed on the matter of Fuentes, Kirk fired back.

“I don’t debate trolls,” he said. And to Casey’s challenge to a debate, Kirk retorted, “…I have no idea who you are.” 

In responding to the firing of St. Clair, Kirk stated the St. Clair matter was “resolved internally.” 

Another planted Fuentes fanboy asked Kirk and Smith how “does anal sex help us win the culture war?” 

Smith, a gay man himself, responded to who he billed as a “troll” by stating, “Its a B.S. question, and you know it is,” before Kirk interrupted to say he doesn’t “care about what two consenting adults do.” 

Kirk then declared that the student’s hyperfocus on the question was a bit “weird.” 

The Daily Dot attempted to reach Kirk, Smith, and a TP USA spokesperson for comment on this story, but none responded. 

Fuentes blocked this reporter on Twitter and he was unable to be reached for comment multiple times. 

The squabble between Kirk and Fuentes traces back to March, when a TP USA student group at Iowa State University invited Fuentes to speak. His appearance resulted in backlash around the country against the conservative student organization. The “war” against Kirk and TP USA stems from the outsized influence on the conservative youth movement it has, offering what white nationalists believe is an inherently sanitized version of conservativism that cedes too much ground on cultural issues.

Fuentes envisions leading “zoomers” and young college students towards a nationalist movement, with an army of supporters.

Benny Johnson, TP USA’s Chief Creative Officer, fired back at the white nationalists on Twitter, saying, “these Hate-filled gremlins are NOT conservative,” referring to Fuente’s loyal followers

The Daily Dot reached out to Johnson for comment but did not receive a response.  

Johnson is not alone. Other conservative commentators and right-wing pundits have stepped out to disavow and condemn Fuentes over his continued attacks against Kirk

Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald Trump, turned conservative talk host, declared on Twitter that Fuentes should be banned entirely from the platform. 

Fuentes responded by saying that Gorka is “the most cucked Hungarian I’ve ever met.”  

Gorka did not respond to a request for comment. 

One of Fuentes’ few allies, right-wing internet troll Jacob Wohl, came to Fuentes’s defense on Telegram against Gorka, saying, “Remember when Sebastian Gorka disgraced the Trump Administration by wearing the pin of a Hungarian Neo-Nazi organization to the inauguration?”

Wohl continued, “I answered questions from dozens of ‘Groypers’ in Miami and didn’t melt down like a little bitch.”

Fuentes, unfazed by the calls to be deplatformed, stated, “…young America First nationalists are rejecting the controlled opposition in our party and they think they can make an example out of me. Well FUCK YOU! This Culture War is only beginning.” 

But in light of the spectacle at Ohio State, a select smaller group of students have tweeted about publicly leaving their respective TP USA chapters at their schools over Kirk’s “hypocrisy” when it comes to free speech and Kirk’s acceptance of gays.  

Mike Cernovich, a new-right documentary filmmaker and provocateur extraordinaire, tweeted a defense of Fuentes against the growing calls by fellow conservative for Fuentes to be banned on Twitter. 

Fuentes, on his late-night YouTube live stream “America First,” recently declared that the presence of white nationalist voices at the TP USA “Culture War” event at Ohio State is just the start of their campaign, which will continue at CPAC 2020. 

And Kirk’s organization will be forced to endure the slings of 1,000 trolls. 

This article has been updated. 


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*First Published: Nov 5, 2019, 7:51 am CST