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It’s ingrained in him.

Ohio Gov. John Kasich campaigned in New York City with his stomach, but the Republican presidential candidate is still defending how he ate one of those meals nearly two weeks after the infamous incident.

Eating pizza with a fork and knife is sacrilege for many New Yorkers, but Kasich told Seth Meyers on Thursday night that he had a pretty good reason for it: The pizza was too hot, and he was too impatient to just wait a few minutes for it to cool down.

“When I was in college I had 15 roommates,” he explained. “You think we waited for the pizza to cool? I mean, there’d be no pizza left.”

Kasich no longer lives with 15 roommates—and we’re not sure the pizza was always scorching by the time it arrived—but he might be glad he’s getting heat for his pizza-eating habits instead of his record on LGBTQ and women’s rights and other issues that might matter to undecided voters.

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