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The conversation the internet’s been waiting for.
Frank Ocean interviewed Timothée Chalamet for V-man magazine this week, and it was exactly as pleasant as it sounds.
The interview is the culmination of weeks of mutual fandom between the two artists, and it all started when Ocean wrote a Tumblr post about how much he loved Call Me by Your Name (which Chalamet has a best actor nomination for at this year’s Oscars). In the post, Ocean joked that the actor who plays Chalamet’s dad in the movie, Michael Stuhlbarg, is his “new dad now and that’s that.”
It turned out that the feeling was mutual. Chalamet was already a huge fan of the Grammy winner’s music, so when he learned that his favorite singer had such positive things to say about his movie, he ended up feeding the fire with more glowing quotes. “I’m the biggest fan of his in the world,” the 22-year-old actor said on a recent red carpet. “He has shown all of us what it is to have, beyond artistic integrity, fresh artistry in a time where just because of the digital landscape, it can be hard to maintain a mystery, a freshness and he’s done it.”
Fast forward to Tuesday, and V-man has dropped a surprise feature where the two speak for the first time. It reads a little like a first date, a little like an industry meet-and-greet, and the whole thing is just pleasant. They recommend food spots to each other in New York and L.A. since they’re both splitting time between the cities, and discuss things like the power of Joaquin Phoenix and Chalamet’s on-set piano coach.
Please enjoy this excerpt where Chalamet casually quotes Ocean’s lyrics to him while they’re talking about photography:
FO: What’s the [outfit] going to be for the SAG Awards?
TC: It’s going to be…“Please don’t touch my Raf, please don’t touch my Raf” [laughs].
FO: We’re giving Raf [Simons] this evening. I love it.
TC: I’m such a fan boy. [Being involved] with fashion has been really fun, just as a fan. I don’t want to work with a stylist or anything. I’ve been following designers like Raf, Haider Ackermann, Hedi Slimane—these guys are like rock stars. They’re artists.
FO: Yeah, they’re artists. There’s this really great connection between all these [creative] fields. You’re finding your own creativity and being excited about that; it’s cool. I’ve been into photography for six or seven years. It’s almost like this quiet search for joy. It actually provides me with the same feeling that making a record does: imagining or dreaming about something, and then it being in the real world.
TC: “Dreaming a thought that could dream about a thought. / That could think of the dreamer that thought. / That could think of dreaming and getting a glimmer of God.”
FO: [Laughs.] Don’t do that.
You can read the full interview here.
Christine Friar is a writer and editor in New York who focuses on streaming entertainment and internet culture. Her work has appeared in the Awl, the Fader, New York Magazine, Paper Magazine, Vogue, Elle, and more.