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A Reddit post is getting blasted for touting sexist and outdated standards of how women and men should act on Christmas.
The Reddit post, titled “The Best Gift You Can Give Your Husband,” suggests that women should have no expectations of men in order to “remove the pressure of the holidays.”
In five bullet points, the redditor lays out all the expectations a woman should not have.
“Don’t expect a gift. Don’t expect your husband to participate in any activities. Don’t expect a thank you for cooking. Don’t expect a thank you for cleaning. Don’t expect a thank you for buying and wrapping presents for him or others,” the post reads.
While the post seems outlandish, it is not all that surprising considering which subreddit it was posted in: the Red Pill Women subreddit. The Red Pill Women subreddit is where women who follow the Red Pill philosophy congregate to affirm their beliefs that feminism wrong, women ought to serve men, and, apparently, even common courtesy is too much to expect from men.
The post gained further attention online after Robyn Pennacchia posted it to Twitter.
“What kind of bizarre person doesn’t say ‘thank you’ after someone has cooked something for them? How do you even avoid doing that? It would have to be on purpose,” Pennacchia tweeted, along with a screenshot of the Reddit post.
What kind of bizarre person doesn't say "thank you" after someone has cooked something for them? How do you even avoid doing that? It would have to be on purpose. pic.twitter.com/oNWv71m2vs— Robyn Pennacchia (@RobynElyse) December 26, 2019
Some noted that the post must have been written by either a “shitty man” or Stepford Wife, a term that comes from the 1972 novel in which men create housewife robots (dubbed Stepford Wifes) to do their bidding. Another assumed the post was written by an incel.
An incel did would be my guess— Doug Alder 🌈👴🇨🇦 Boomer (@DougAlder) December 26, 2019
Did a shitty man write this?— Elise Guest (@eliseguest) December 26, 2019
Needless to say, people are roasting it.
“Don’t expect to have any agency in this indentured servitude you call a relationship,” Twitter user @ellycmac retorted.
Another Twitter user suggested an alternate headline: “What to expect from a juvenile adolescent during holidays.”
“All I Want for Christmas Is To Be infantilized,” Twitter user @Placeholder_txt joked.
All I Want for Christmas Is To Be infantilized— Jordan Paul with boughs of holly (@Placeholder_txt) December 26, 2019
“Don’t expect to have any agency in this indentured servitude you call a relationship”— lynette💖💜💙 (@ellycmac) December 26, 2019
“Ladies, do everything for your husband for the holidays including buying and wrapping presents for him to give out, but don’t expect a ‘thank you’ or even a gift - doing absolutely nothing is very difficult for him and he is very delicate” pic.twitter.com/Aysqml84Wv— Jamie 🍑 (@JamieFiorito) December 26, 2019
Man, if my kid didn't say thank you for their gifts and other people's efforts we would have a talk.— monkeypawwishes (@monkeypawwishes) December 26, 2019
Others explained that if their partner in this manner, they would rather not have a partner.
“If the man I have been married to for 36 years ever expected those for a “gift”, he could also expect the locks to be changed,” Twitter user @sylvie79392086 wrote.
If the man I have been married to for 36 years ever expected those for a “gift”, he could also expect the locks to be changed— sylvie (@sylvie79392086) December 26, 2019
If that's how my husband behaves I'd rather not have a husband.— This Black Woman thinks..... (@Sylviawimberly1) December 26, 2019
Siobhan Ball is a historian, archivist, and journalist. She also writes for Autostraddle and bi.org